i'm under the impression that the debt ceiling is to give the authority to the president to assure our progress, the each and every nickel that we would fall get it back. i also believe that we have to have some guidelines on spending in order to share with creditors and americans alike, the fact are we going to reduce unnecessary spending. having said that, some people believe we have to have this involved debt ceiling with the deficit. and, of course, that's controversial. under the system of prioritizi prioritizing, payments that some people are pushing forward, they would believe that we can determine just to we're going to pay out interest to, we get a better handle on the spending part of the fiscal dilemma. and i just want to ask dr. johnson some questions that these programs that think you pay interest on your debt is, number one, priorty. i think every family would like to pay off interest. social security, and then third, somewhere active duty military, and i think patriotic as well as political. but under the scenario, dr. johnson, will we be paying the people that we borrow